| Hammond Pond Unit Management Plan |
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2019-04-11 ELPOI e-mail to R. Weber at APA- asking that attached comments document be considered for their review the HPWF UMP. 2019-04-11 ELPOI Public comments regarding the HPWF UMP- and conditions applied specific to Eagle Lakes boat launch and picnic, day use , primitive camping area at Crown Point Bay. 2019-4-9 Eagle Lake resident F. Barwig's public comment letter to APA- about the Hammond Pond Unit Management Plan compliance to the SLMP. 2019-03-12 Letter sent to Senator Betty Little, Assembly Person Dan Stec, and Ticonderoga Town Supervisor- indicating the ELPOI thanks for helping in the process of working with the DEC on plans for the HPWF UMP and proposed changes to the EL boat launch. Compilation of notes related to the reason some lakes in the area, while also under 1000 acres are afforded the opportunity for a boat launch- and how EL may have been left out of the discussion of also fitting in to the same classification, it was written in response to a question ask of association member R. Tiedemann, by Assembly Person Dan Stec's, Legislative Aid Deb Capezzuti. 2019-3-7 Redline Version of the DEC UMP- the following document is the 2019-3-7 version of the DEC's RED LINE Hammond Pond Wild Forest Unit Management Plan HPWF UMP as it will be present to the APA at their March 14 meeting. there are on numerous instance in the document when comparing to the November 2018 DRAFT that red lining of new text is not included, additions of images are not noted, where formatting of information is changed and not noted and where text that was in the Draft has been dropped without using a strike out. As a result of these inconsistencies it makes a true comparison of the 2 document almost impossible leading the average reader to draw conclusion that may not be correct. At the end of the document are public comment received with regards to this document- referencing several of the original comments as shared by their authors it appears that DEC has chosen to dissect the comment letters and present and comment on only specific sections. RT has noted in the comments section those pieces of text that are missing from an Eagle Lake residents comments (see separate file Floyd missing comments below). The original document can be found here assuming you are lucky enough to get the APA website to load. 2019-3-9 RED line to 2018 Draft UMP Comparison and Concern Notes- details the inconsistencies for the 2019 Red Line draft UMP as compared to the 2018 version, details the EPLOI's reaction to the proposed changes, notes what resident comments may or may not have been included in the UMP provides some detail about what local notification processes were or were not used. 2019-1-16 Barwig specifics letter to DEC Regarding Boat Launch Issues- This document highlights in yellow the sections of Barwigs' public comment letter that the DEC chose to include in their 2019 RED LINE version of the Hammond Pond UMP presentation. The original letter was 6 pages in length and was edited without notation in the 2019 document to 5 paragraphs. Those paragraphs are indicated with yellow highlights. Rolf Tiedemann annotated, see here for the original unmarked up version (or in residents comments below). ELPOI's FOIL request to DEC for documents related to the Hammond Pond Wild Forrest UMP draft, public notices, press releases, UMP documents, presentation notes and public comments- public comments start around page 65 with the first comment from an EL resident, a letter dated 2-25-2019 and a receipt stamp of 1-28-2019 appearing on page 67
image shows date of request being completed by the DEC date 2-22-2019, there should have been sufficient time for your letter to have been received. Extensive comments on pages 69-77 and again on pages 101-103 were submitted by EL resident Floyd Barwig (person who's place is to the west of mine up on ceder poles) and were submitted by postal and e-mail. His comments appear in the full unedited version in the FOIL document but appear to have been selectively edited and abbreviated when they were included in the RED line document.
The last 2 EL resident comments are on pages 104 and 105 with one of these being the Chief of the CVFD dated 1-10-2019 and 1-23-2019
other resident comments are also missing, whose and how they were delivered is still a mystery. 2019-2-26 Most recent letter sent to Bob Stegemann- this letter details the missing link between the boat launch and the Crown Point Bay area camp ground/ day use area it also gives lake size details for the Lincoln pond, Paradox Lake, Loon lake, and Puts Pond camping area as compared to Eagle Lake. 2019-2-9 e-mail to Bob Stegmann Detailing Early Concerns of Lake Residents- concerning proposed changes to the boat launch, interest to see proof of newspapers used for public notification, request to have a reply sent to those residents that took the time to send in public comments, disappointment with past milfoil options and ELPOI not completing an application for 2019 invasive's species grant, also includes resident Keith P. letter of concern. Eagle Lake Boat Launch Changes Email-Letter to membership describing the proposed changes to the DEC Eagle Lake boat launch and boat access only beach. January 2019. 2019-1-23 Email request, by ELPOI President C. Hyde, to Eagle Lake residents- requesting to write letters about how proposed changes to boat Launch and Beach maintenance will affect their future use/ enjoyment of EL. Request includes names of DEC, APA and government contacts to direct comments to. 2019-1-18 follow-up e-mail to, Town of Ticonderoga Supervisor, Joe Giordano, related to phone call on 2019-1-14- e-mail provides basic details as they relate to proposed DEC changes to boat launch and maintenance of the EL beach, it also provides web links for his review of changes EL seasonal resident F. Barwig has crafted and shared these 3 letters of opposition sent to the DEC regarding proposed changes to the EL float off/on boat launch as detailed in the 2018 HPWF UMP. He asks others to likewise share their concerns with the DEC. Letter 1, Letter 2, and Letter 3. 1972 Adirondack Park State Land Master Plan- details describing how the land with-in the park would be designated and managed moving forward under the plan of the "park". Residents concerned about boat ramp- Eagle Lake launch to be modified under Hammond Pond plan. By Time Rowland Sun Times 1-10-2019. DEC flow chart as it relates to process for creating a Unit Management Plan UMP- note significant amount of agency staff collaboration and how little open public input there is- the only public input is through a reactionary statement at the time of public hearings. Fiorentino R. Senior DEC Biologist e-mail- Thoughts on proposed EL boat launch barrier 2018-1-14 DEC modifies trailered boat launch on Garnet Lake- Sun Times 9-7-2018.
Listing of NYS boat launches- with what appears to be "older" language for description of what an "unimproved" launch will be, this is what has been assumed for the EL boat launch in the past. from the NYS guide Unimproved trailer launch- informal trailered boat launching/retrieving designed for small, light boats. Site may be too shallow for boat to be floated off trailer Listing of Essex County boat launches- with what looks like "new" language for description of what an "unimproved" launch will be. This description matches that language used in the proposed 2018 HPWF management plan. From the Essex county guide "Unimproved trailer launch- No float-off or float-on trailered boat capability. Sites will accommodate the approach to the water's edge of small and light trailered boats. Boat may then be pushed on or off trailer. Usually shallow area" 1988 Hammond Pond Wild Forest Unit Management Plan- has interesting reference to 1986 re-construction of Eagle Lake outflow dam on page 40, makes brief mention of EL boat launch and need for it for accessing the beach/camp ground Adirondack Park Agency Live and Archived Media page- Repository of past agency meetings.
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| Eagle Lake Residents Comments Shared with ELPOI president Chris Hyde and/or the DEC related to proposed changes for access to the DEC boat launch and maintenance to the boat access only DEC beach |
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Park K. Eagle Lake letter to Stegemann - sent in via e-mail by RT not included in 2019 red line UMP. Peffer T. letter to Hyde re changes to boat launch- not sent to DEC. Stevens J. reply to DEC for boat launch- letter sent to C Hyde only. Fraize comment to DEC re boat launch- sent to DEC never received that ELPOI can tell, may have been a bad DEC e-mail address. |
| Second Round of Resident Comments and Letters to the DEC These were not included in the revised UMP |
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2019-4-9 Eagle Lake resident F. Barwig's public comment letter to APA- about the Hammond Pond Unit Management Plan compliance to the SLMP. 2019-3-4 Governor reply- to Dorfman comment letter Dorfman 2019-2-28 letter to DEC with cc 2019-2-15 Pfeffer email to neighbor Paddack re boat launch |
| Ongoing/Follow-Up Communications Related to 5 Year Study |
2019-9-29 resident F. Barwig letter to DEC and APA- regarding design and application of "roller barrier" and application to Eagle lake from personal observation at Garnet Lake. |
| Carrying Capacity Documents |
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The Second Pond UMP is used as a reference to what a site specific UMP for a proposed change to Eagle Lakes boat launch and a need for a UMP here might look like- It is also a reference for what the term Carrying Capacity might involve as related to a boat launch UMP- noted on page 6 is a study done by SUNY Forestry Syracuse related to Carrying capacity. RT has made yellow and red highlights to specific sections as noted for reference to EL. Adirondack Park Forest Preserve- Carrying Capacity of Water Bodies Study: Phase I- Selecting Indicators for Monitoring Recreational Impacts August 31, 2011- The Document referenced in the Second Pond UMP related to carrying capacity. It was published by SUNY Forestry. 2019-3-29 email from SUNY ESF Professor Chad Dawson- indicating the Phase 2 to 4 of the Carrying Capacity of water bodies studies and reports were never completed due to funding limitations. Adirondack Park Forest Preserve- Carrying Capacity of Water Bodies Study: Phase II- Not Completed Adirondack Park Forest Preserve- Carrying Capacity of Water Bodies Study: Phase III- Not Completed Adirondack Park Forest Preserve- Carrying Capacity of Water Bodies Study: Phase IV- Not Completed Primitive Camping - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation- compiled with RT mark up NYSFOLA Optional CSLAP Observations- Ice on/off, boat counts and recreation survey, anglers survey, Zebra Mussels and monitoring.
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| OTHER Regions UMP Documents |
The Second Pond UMP is used as a reference to what a site specific UMP for a proposed change to Eagle Lakes boat launch and a need for a UMP here might look like- It is also a reference for what the term Carrying Capacity might involve as related to a boat launch UMP- noted on page 6 is a study done by SUNY Forestry Syracuse related to Carrying capacity. RT has made yellow and red highlights to specific sections as noted for reference to EL |
| Site Specific UMP as Related to Boat Launches and Campgrounds |
Intensive use Generic 1990 Full UMP- volume I and III
Paradox Lake Final UMP 1994- volume II
Eagle Point Public Campground Unit Management Plan- Final January 2019 |
| Related Newspaper Articles |
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2019-05-21 Boat launch survives- State says popular Eagle Lake ramp will remain open for now. Sun Community Times. 2019-05-23 Borrowed time- No decision on Eagle Bay boat launch for at least two years. Sun Community Times. Under the Radar?- Adirondack Explorer Magazine Article by Tim Rowland March/April 2019. Article about Eagle lakes boat launch, DEC and APA public notice procedures related to this and other notifications. Article is available either in the print edition or by subscription to the Adirondack Explorer, reproduced here with the permission of the editor. Hammond Pond plan includes interstate trail- Adirondack Explorer 2019-3-15. Eagle Lake boat launch closure not a minor issue- Sun Community News & Printing 2019-3-15 letter to the editor. Adirondack Park Agency talks carry capacity- Adirondack Daily Enterprise 2019-3-5. Raising red flag over Lyme- Eagle Lake resident warns public to take disease seriously The Sun Community News and Printing 2019-3-1. DEC should not close Eagle Lake boat launch- The Sun Community News and Printing 2019-2-20 letter to the editor. Tiedemann Markup on Trails get cleared- APA approves Frontier Town hiking and horse paths. The Sun Community News and Printing 2019-2-20. Trails get cleared- APA approves Frontier Town hiking and horse paths. The Sun Community News and Printing 2019-2-20. Residents concerned about boat ramp- Eagle Lake launch to be modified under Hammond Pond plan. By Time Rowland Sun Times 1-10-2019. DEC has public meeting today on Hammond Pond Wild Forest- Adirondack Daily Enterprise 2018-11-13. Views sought on Adirondack tract- Times Union 2018-11-10. North Hudson Gateway: DEC Revising Hammond Pond Wild Forest Plan- Adirondack Explorer 2018-2-5. |
| Adirondack Park Agency Meeting Videos | |
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Adirondack Park Agency Live and Archived Media page- Repository of past agency meetings. The original Friday March 15th 2019 video file hosted on the APA website- this may take a while to load. The webmaster has placed the videos on youtube (as they were originally uploaded) to make viewing them easier. The original Thursady March 14th 2019 video file hosted on the APA website- this may take a while to load. The webmaster has placed the videos on youtube (as they were originally uploaded) to make viewing them easier. |
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| Full Meeting Video Thursday March 14th 2019 |
Full Meeting Video Friday March 15th 2019 |
| Eagle Lake Resident and Other Relevant Comments | |
| Cory M, DEC Presentation to APA |
Resident Floyd B |
| APA/DEC Discussion of Hammond Pond Wild Forest UMP re: Eagle Lake |
Agency's Reply to Public Comments |
| Adirondack State Land Master Plans | |
| The original documents predate digital files and were provided as scans of the originals as part of a 3-2019 FOIL request by the ELPOI. These were run through OCR software to make them searchable for specific text and to reduce file sizes. | |
Original 1972- details describing how the land with-in the park would be designated and managed moving forward under the plan of the "Park.". |
1972 as OCR RT 3-19-19- Highlighting added by RT as specifc to boat launches regarding Eagle Lake (see page 16). |
| Starting in 2001 the documents were created in digital format and were already searchable. | |
2016 Adirondack Park State Land Master Plan- see pages 22-23 and 44 for reasons why Eagle lake beach and boat launch are out of compliance |
2016 Adirondack Park State Land Master Plan- with RT mark-up for relevant and related text/changes. |
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